This is a very intense film. You rarely see mention of them, other than the fact that they existed, and I read through multiple articles before I even spotted Mrs. Hansens first name. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. Anchorage's jail is one of the state's only correctional facilities with a medical unit. I feel like women have an easier time separating from their characters than men do, honestly. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Its a over shirt. CINDY: Uh huh. I understand youre in early talks for The Kitchen Sink which has been described as a monster genre mash-up. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. It was just shocking and disturbing. FLOTHE: How did you know this? FLOTHE: You drove past the house? For a man who had been a social outcast all of his life, it shouldve been an incredible feeling to finally be accepted; in his new town he opened his very own successful bakery with money obtained through an insurance scam, he and his new wife had a couple of kids, and Robert became a well respected member of society. Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. (pause) CINDY: Uh huh. So its early in the morning In the film inspired by true events, Hudgens character forms an unlikely partnership with Alaska State Trooper, Sgt. He remains active in the markets. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. The identity of one of his victims, who was found near Horseshoe lake north of Anchorage has never been established and now her remains are being exhumed. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. CINDY: Yeah, it had a really long barrel. This link contains non-graphic crime scene photos from Robert Hansen, it is mostly of the grave sites. Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. As broad as that seems, its kind of the plan. or debate this issue live on our message boards. It was very, very eerie and really tough, but John (Cusack) was great. FLOTHE: An older car. CINDY: Number five. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. Were the lights on or off? CINDY: Yeah. "He's one of those kind of guys that you kind of hope every breath he takes in his life, there's some pain associated with it, because he caused such pain," Rothschild said. Why dont we start then with what will be freshest in mind, which is the the cases that are pending now and from what happened in June of last year. Its important, too, for people to see that it only takes one person to have faith in you, to care about you, to make you feel changed. CINDY: Tons Being able to take those and meditate on them myself and make her memories my own memories put me in the right head space. 2022 Anchorage Daily News. Hudgens: That was great. Cindy later recounted that Robert had offered her $200 bucks for oral sex, and that hed pulled a gun on her just as soon as she stepped inside his vehicle; the teen was driven back to Roberts home where she was chained to a beam by her throat, raped, and tortured for several hours. This led to her becoming known by many as 'Horseshoe Harriet' within the state's medical examiner's office. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. Cause I still got marks from the handcuffs on my hands. He never learned her real name, he said. She described the kidnapper and his plane to authorities, but when police questioned him, he had an alibi and a gentle demeanor, so they let him go. Hansen later became one of the first prisoners at the newly opened Spring Creek Correctional Center, where he had remained until this year. Identifying and finding Hansens weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the Butcher, Baker. [Installment Two]. FLOTHE: Did he give you change? CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. Did he only do a few takes or did he do as many as he felt he needed? ): And we pulled over to the side, by the side of the house, and I proceeded to give him a blowjob. Required fields are marked *. He was right to worry, state officials later said. There are so many different genres out there to do, so many different characters to play, so many different amazing actors and directors to work with. I mean He invited me afterwards to go to dinner with him and a couple of his friends because he felt so bad about putting me through that. Whether shed been taken to his house or not, in the end these women (or the known victims at least) wound up in the Alaskan wilderness. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. CINDY: He approached me. Roberts first kill is either believed to have occurred in 1971, 1972, or 1973. All rights reserved. FLOTHE: Six in the evening? Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. Hansen confessed to authorities that he had killed 17. *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. We must step back and reflect to see new opportunities for growth. CINDY: On Fourth and Denali. So its immoral to make snap judgments about people. FLOTHE: How did he get in? CINDY: Yep. Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. The story of Hanson eluding police and his eventual capture became the subject of a 2013 movie, "Frozen Ground," starring John Cusack as the killer and Nicholas Cage as an Alaska state trooper. In a police interview after Paulson's escape, she told him she got the feeling other people may live in the house. I play Cereza which means Cherry in Spanish which says a lot about the character. But it would be simple psychopaths are master manipulators and first class liars. Its nice because I can watch it from an outsiders perspective and be sucked into it, which is cool. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. CINDY: Um hmm. We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. CINDY: OK, well I had got in the car to give the guy a blowjob. They look at them in a very specific way. I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. The serial killer wasnt even on the suspect list anymore, hed been completely cleared. CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? "He will not be missed," said Frank Rothschild, the assistant district attorney who tried the case. John Paulson. There, he held her captive and proceeded to rape and torture her. CINDY: Um hmm. Kidnapped: The True Story of Cindy Paulson, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. (pause) Required fields are marked *. CINDY: Yep. FLOTHE: Where were you going to meet him at Saturday? No matter what her husband did, even after hed been arrested and jailed for rape, she remained by her husbands side. I thought it was an amazing take on pop culture and where we are today and how the generation is so media-driven and see and be seen. It was just a really interesting take on college students. Hudgens: Thats always been the goal. Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. You see, when we was driving I observed everything. In June 1983, one of his victims, Cindy Paulson, managed to escape his car as he loaded his plane to take her to his cabin. Identifying and finding Hansen's weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the " Butcher, Baker ." Was it fun watching them go toe to toe? OK, that wasnt even back there. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. Rothschild recounted watching Hansen transform into "the monster he was" the day prosecutors sat down with Hansen and laid out the evidence against him. When it was time for Hansen to go to prison, his plea agreement included a request, according to accounts at the time: He would do his time outside Alaska. FLOTHE: Where did you go when you did it in the car? Im not going to help you do that, all right? CINDY: Thats it. And if Im not mistaken I think he had a green or a light t-shirt underneath it. CINDY: Yes. CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. Your email address will not be published. CINDY: He wrote it down on a (inaudible). Big ol like caribou and goats heads, big ones stuffed everywhere. With his death, the full extent of Hansen's deeds, including the true number of his victims, the location of their bodies and the identities of all the women he kidnapped, raped and sometimes hunted like wild game before murdering might never be known. Glenn Flothe, AST. He liked to take these women home with him, and once a victim had entered this killers lair she was pretty much doomed; he would take her down to the basement, often to a secret soundproof room where he already had chains rigged up. CINDY: Nope. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. CINDY: Yep. FLOTHE: OK. Where were you at when you saw him on a Friday? Hudgens: Honestly, its even better than I thought it was going to be. FLOTHE: Like this? Wonderful tram tour guide Cindy is starting her fourth year as a trail tram tour driver for MCRF. They told Hansen they had seized his map marked with 17 locations, spots that they believed indicated the locations of bodies. CINDY: Yeah. He had already tortured and raped her, and she was still handcuffed when she ran from his car to flag down passing traffic. Cindy Paulson is Portrayed by Vanessa Hudgens In The Film 17 Year Old Cindy Paulson is handcuffed and screaming for help. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. He confessed to sometimes releasing the women in the woods in order to stalk and hunt them before the murders. On his terms. I need a cheap laptop, microphones, etc. My left wrist, right there I mean, man, what he did to me, he had to kill me. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. The woman, who was believed to in her late teens was found on April 25, 1984, near Horseshoe Lake. Im not involved though. I really respect that. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. Your email address will not be published. Like many killers he targeted transient women, they were often exotic dancers and sex workers; after hed charmed the woman of his choice and done his best to convince her of his harmlessness, Robert would talk her into leaving with him. Stephen Hoage, operations administrator for the state medical examiner's office said: 'We know what happened to her. This is Sunday night or early Monday morning? While there does not seem to be a singular traumatic event in Roberts childhood which we can pinpoint, it appears that hed had a really difficult time in most aspects of his life as a kid and even as an adult he just couldnt (or wouldnt) let it go. It was smooth. Glenn Flothe, AST. I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. FLOTHE: Oh and you saw a sign that said Dead End? Your email address will not be published. CINDY: The garage was opened. CINDY: You know, I didnt feel nothing, cause I knew I wasnt gonna live. How does it compare to what you envisioned when you first read the script? A metallic green Buick Century. Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. Cause at the time, I was very new to Alaska and I dont never go to anybodys house. As of 5:30 Saturday afternoon theres a new article available. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. (inaudible) When police were able to interview her, she explained her grizzly tale in detail. And then up here on my hand, right in the middle. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson How was the directing process with Scott Walker? So he felt he should go and get the girl and take her over to his house. CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. I always wanted to do dramas. If Im unsure of something, I promise to tell you, and yall the dates in this case about drove me nuts. She Gets rescued By an patrol Officer. Just him by himself. As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, The killer had been in declining health for the past year, the department said. Still, he couldve taken a life before he was busted, who knows? Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? FLOTHE: OK. Later the girl stated that she had immediately known that those seven other women had been murdered, and she was very determined not to become number eight! CINDY: And then up here to where I was starting to get it off. This looks black but its actually blue. The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. So you go into the garage, what happens then, when you get into the garage? Handle was brown. With a wood handle. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. But he had brown socks on. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. CINDY: (interrupting) Well, I went over there cause at first I didnt recognize him. Glenn Flothe, AST. CINDY: Uh huh Being in an office meant that team building happened naturally, and to re-create that connection virtually, takes a lot of To be authentic, inclusion needs action behind it. I wanted everyone to see that were all the same. But then, after that, I could not get over the fact of how amazing this character was and how I had to be a part of it. Or was it some other color? Growing up Robert was scrawny, he had this terrible stutter, and a super bad case of acne; all of this made him the target of bullies everywhere. FLOTHE: Were you shown any pictures of him before? He picked her up in town and told her he was driving her to his home in Muldoon, he said. But after some bodies were found by hunters in the area, investigators re-visited suspects and realized he fit the profile. Survivor Cindy, who is a married mother of three today. So in 1939 Robert was born in Estherville, Iowa to an immigrant father. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on FLOTHE: Like a station wagon? And he had pulled out his wallet and showed me a whole bunch of money I guess Im superstitious, so I dont like talking about things until they happen, but there are a few things in the works. And, uh, I called back to her the next the next day or some oth or day or two afterwards. Couple find note in chimney that reveals their 290,000 house was 100 times cheaper 50 years ago. Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) We are all the same. Roberts father, an overbearing man who never did care to have a decent relationship with his son, expected young Robert to be busy at work in the familys bakery whenever he wasnt in school. Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? Hes got like frog warts on his face. CINDY: Some times they were. CINDY: Yep. Hansen asked to speak with his attorneys and went out into another room. CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. And he had called me and I slept through it. And if Im not mistaken I think he got green or blue eyes. CINDY: A little moustache. She was a prostitute who was kidnapped and raped before managing to escape, but when she went to the police, Hansen evaded arrest because the lead investigator didn't . Uh, the first time I seen CINDY PAULSON was about a block west of, I think its a 76 station on the corner there of Gambell and 5th. CINDY: The automatic opener. (inaudible). On June 13, 1983, Cindy Paulson was kidnapped and raped, her life threatened by Robert Hansen. So he shows up Sunday night, then. Be sure and look at all six. And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. FLOTHE: OK. Was it a blue color? And then we hear about the same meet up from Cindy Paulsons perspective, documented in her trooper interview with Sgt. Robert had been in the habit of keeping a souvenir from most of his hunting sessions, whether it be wild game or women. John A. Paulson founded Paulson & Co., an investment management firm based in New York. When Hansen drove up to Paulson and propositioned her, she agreed to get into his car. He offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car, cause I wouldnt go to his place. Okay. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. That was why [Hansen] kept telling me to lay down. Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. The Butcher Baker Minisode. He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. Hansen was convicted in 1984 after confessing to killing 17 women, mostly dancers and prostitutes, during a 12-year span in the 1970s and 80s. Learn how your comment data is processed. Robert Hansen is probably the most prolific serial in recent Alaskan history. CINDY: Uh huh. STEPHEN Don't just stick to the Malbec! Hudgens: It was definitely the rape scene because we recreated that room to a T. I mean, everything that I was seeing, the emotions that I was feeling, were the exact same things that these young victims had gone through as well, and it was crazy living that, even though its make believe. The infamous Special Agent John Douglas took a look at the case, and he informed the trooper that his perpetrator would likely have a stutter! Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? Were all connected. It seems most likely that he was arrested for the sexual assaults in December of 71, remained in trouble with the law (he served a short prison sentence) throughout 72, and probably started killing after his release. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. He joined the ADN in 2004 and was also an editor and investigative reporter at KTUU-TV. If it was something technical, of course, it would take a couple more takes, but for the most part, hes the kind of director that filled me in, let me know the mood that he wanted to convey and where he wanted it to land. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. Hudgens: Nothing that I want to talk about quite yet. I was surprised that I could do it and then go home and be able to feel removed from it. FLOTHE: Which photograph is that? And he contacts you. Paulson told Flothe in her interview, which is published in full on Leland Hale's website, the man who wrote Butcher, Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer: CINDY: He just said,. I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) CINDY: Yes, directly. CINDY: Um hmm Feb 12, 2023. Then he had got my other hand cuffed, I dont know how he did it, it was just frightening, cause I didnt really I fought, but not a lot, cause I knew he would do something. Opening August 23rd, the film also features Dean Norris, Radha Mitchell and Curtis 50 Cent Jackson. I just had no idea what it would be like for me to be fully authentic at work.. CINDY: I dont think so. No comments have so far been submitted. You know, I was supposed to meet him. Your email address will not be published. CINDY: Um hmm. Maybe they were different frames. FLOTHE: Either he had opened it or it was already open? At an APD station, She explains to detectives that she was abducted and repeatedly raped. CINDY: The Buick Century. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. Her eventual getaway was central to Hansen's ultimate capture and confession to the murder of dozens of women. Can you tell us how that all came about? CINDY: Yep. CINDY: Uh huh. See how my sights are painted with an orange He had been transferred to the hospital on Wednesday. Looking at picture number five, is there anything different about him as you saw him, compared to the picture, Robert Hansen Police Lineup Photo Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. CINDY: No. CINDY: All right. CINDY: It was a really dark color. So, that was nice. He pulled over and I recognized him immediately. She left the ADN in October 2018. Brown and Caldwells former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. FLOTHE: Friday morning. Glenn Flothe and his wife, Cheryl, after her successful kidney transplant in 2007 (crying) Even though we were filming something that was so heavy and tough to come to work for every day, he had this enthusiasm and energy about him that was just so upbeat and lighthearted, so that even though it was serious, you felt excited and safe. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and there's no telling how much longer he would've lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of '83. *EDIT * Cindy did not escape from the plane, she hopped out of his car. You mentioned a minute ago, Cindy, that he wanted you to go home with him, or something, and you didnt want to go home with him, or FLOTHE: OK. Kids can be so cruel; while the boys his own age poked fun of and beat on him, the girls all laughed about how ugly he was. How did you approach your portrayal of Cindy? She had been engaging in sex work. CINDY: Its blue with a big ol picture window and the whole house is If you drive down Old Harbor Road, the windows on the right side and the garage is to the left. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. "When you kill that many women there's a good chance you may have killed some convict's girlfriend," said Bob Spinde, who was in charge of prisoner records. FLOTHE: Ah. After he was convicted of committing murder, Darla finally let go of her marriage; she promptly divorced her husband, then she and the kids moved back to Arkansas to be with family. Alaska's Missing Planes and People. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. 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